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#1 By Eduardo Antunes ( 14 June 2010 - 03:00 )

Yessssss! :)

Merci beaucoup!

#2 By Reskator ( 14 June 2010 - 11:05 )

Cool !

#3 By Jean-Christophe d'urbanbike ( 14 June 2010 - 11:42 )

Quand on duplique un graphique déjà réalisé par Claquos, on peut réouvrir la palette et changer les valeurs. mais en validant, au lieu de mettre à jour le graphique sélectionné, Claquos en génère un nouveau. J'imagine que cela est lié à la béta version…?

#4 By Marc ( 14 June 2010 - 12:00 )

> [...] au lieu de mettre à jour le graphique sélectionné,
> Claquos en génère un nouveau [...]

Il faut sélectionner "Selected Target" dans la zone "Output", si ce n'est pas encore le cas.

@+
Marc

#5 By Marc ( 14 June 2010 - 12:48 )

BUG SIGNALÉ (v. 2.020). — Sous InDesign CS5 Mac et Windows, les boutons d'éclatement de parts (« Explode/Implode Pie ») sont actuellement inopérants. Leur état respectif n'est pas mémorisé.

Note : ces boutons fonctionnent correctement sous CS4, et dans la version non binaire du script sous CS5 !

Affaire à suivre...

#6 By Jean-Christophe d'urbanbike ( 14 June 2010 - 13:16 )

Suite #4 et destroy the pattern sinon les deux versions du graphique se superposent

#7 By Marc ( 14 June 2010 - 19:50 )

[2.021] MàJ / Update
============================

• Le bug #5 devrait être résolu. Possibilité d'éclater indépendamment les parts sous CS5.

• La contrainte #4 devrait être adoucie. Sélectionnez le dernier fromage généré avant de lancer le script, il proposera par défaut l'option « Selected Target » et « Destroy the pattern ».

#8 By Jean-Christophe d'urbanbike ( 14 June 2010 - 20:11 )

Et la réponse arrive sans délais… Oui, corrigé…! Je peux éclater/écarter n'importe quelle part, voire toutes…

Bon, et le reste du programme…?!!! La gestion en pourcentage, les infos de légendes en entités séparées, des unités avec style, la 3D, la rotation sur 360°, l'entrée des infos par simple transmission de pensée…??!!!

#9 By erique ( 15 June 2010 - 01:19 )

Looks like a great addition, Marc. Thank you.

My work involves a lot of text books printed in black only. I wonder if you would consider a greyscale version where we can select pattern fills instead of colour fills.

#10 By Marc ( 15 June 2010 - 02:42 )

That's a good point, but such a feature is not as simple to implement as we could hope. Because of the OS limitations, Claquos internally simulates its own color system through temporary RGB values. The script invokes some InDesign swatch management routines to compute reliable values, but it's not easy to inject “tint swatches” —or “gradient swatches”— in this process.

As a workaround, you could rather create the greyscales as pure CMYK color swatches using only the Black channel. Then you would just have to apply the special [Swatches] theme from Claquos:

#11 By Gobit ( 15 June 2010 - 02:44 )

Thank you so very much!!!!!

Gobit

#12 By erique ( 15 June 2010 - 10:00 )

Thanks for the speedy reply, Marc. Your work around is fine for small pie charts, but becomes somewhat cumbersome for say an 8-slice pie (or more).

I might leave this with you for future consideration.

#13 By erique ( 15 June 2010 - 10:44 )

As a further thought, perhaps Claquos could come with a small library of patterns for such greyscale work. Things like a horizontal line pattern, vertical, diagonal (both ways), dots, wavey line, etc - you get the picture.

This would bypass the grey tint issue for larger pie charts and if we could add our own patterns to the library it would be even more wonderful.

I know, it might sound like I'm asking for an altogether new plugin! But knowing nothing about writing such things, I imagine that these are all possibilities. Happy to stand corrected if I'm wrong, though.

On the other hand, it would, IMHO, certainly improve the value of Claquos because it potentially makes it useful to a much wider audience - the 'one-colour-only' designers of the world.

Okay, that's the last of it from me - I'll leave you in peace, now. :)

#14 By Marc ( 15 June 2010 - 10:55 )

> Your work around is fine for small pie charts, but becomes
> somewhat cumbersome for say an 8-slice pie (or more).

Why?? In a ‘real life’ workflow you just need to create the greyscale set ONCE. Then you can save it as a Claquos theme and re-use it when you want on any document, provided that you output the pie-chart in CMYK mode.

For example, suppose that you need to generate pie-charts containing from 2 to 8 slices. Open a new document, create 7 CMYK swatches to scale the needed tints (Black15, Black25, Black35, etc.), then run Claquos, create 8 pies, apply first the [Swatches] theme, and save it as a new theme (e.g. “Greyscale-8”). That's it.

The only limitation of this workaround is that Claquos won't directly manage and produce InDesign “Tint Swatches” from a basic color. It gets the greyscale output through separated CMYK swatches using various percents of [Black]. For some reason it could matter —actually I can not say if this is a real problem, is it?

Anyway, your request need to be considered. Maybe I should provide a predefined ‘Greyscale’ theme. What do you think about that solution?

#15 By Marc ( 15 June 2010 - 11:03 )

OK, Erique! I didn't understand correctly your request, sorry.

So you mean greyscale *PATTERNS*. And that's a big challenge now. . . First question: how to do that in InDesign?

;-)

Marc

#16 By erique ( 15 June 2010 - 11:08 )

Sorry Marc, perhaps I didn't make myself very clear there.

It is not creating the greyscale set that worries me - that's the easy part. I was trying to convey that the shade/tint difference may become less visible as we use more slices in the pie and hence the chart becomes more difficult to read. Imagine a situation where there is but a 10% (or less!) tint variation.

To get around that possible issue, I suggested the pattern fill solution. This is not an new idea - Illustrator will let us pattern fills (even in combination with grey tints).

Of course, this whole thing is only an issue when there are a lot of slices in the pie chart. For simple charts it is a bit of a non-issue as your workaround does the job very adequately.

#17 By collywolly ( 15 June 2010 - 12:50 )

c'est magnifique! une fois de plus, l'excellent travail.

#18 By Terri ( 15 June 2010 - 15:42 )

Merci beaucoup!

Works wonderfully.

#19 By Marcio Duarte ( 19 June 2010 - 19:32 )

Thanks a lot for this script, it's very very nice. There's any plan to extend the functionality to create other types of charts, like bar and line charts?

#20 By Marc ( 21 June 2010 - 10:14 )

> There's any plan to extend the functionality to
> create other types of charts, like bar and line charts?

That's an idea! I'll think about it.

#21 By mchak ( 28 June 2010 - 15:17 )

Great script - thanks! But how do i get a pie that is not exploded? I tried entering 0 and 1 and even -1 (didn't work) in the Explosion Factor box.

#22 By Marc ( 28 June 2010 - 18:48 )

> how do i get a pie that is not exploded?

Each pie is exploded/imploded independently. Push the implode icon button of the exploded pie in the panel box.

#23 By mchak ( 28 June 2010 - 20:33 )

Thanks, I didn't see that implode button before.

How do I create a swatch set? I'd like to use swatches from the document's swatches panel - is that possible, or do I have to just apply them after making the pie?

#24 By Marc ( 29 June 2010 - 00:00 )

> How do I create a swatch set? I'd like to use swatches
> from the document's swatches panel...

Use the ‘Theme’ feature to manage your swatch sets. A list item named ‘[Swatches]’ is automatically generated from the active InDesign swatches.

When you select another item in the Theme list, the corresponding color set is applied to the pies.

You can change a specific color by clicking the color button at the left of any pie item.

When your color set is OK, you can save it permanently as a new Theme by clicking the ‘Save’ button near the listbox. (This also works with [Swatches].)

Note that any color set, including the special [Swatches] theme, is internally managed in RGB mode. You still can output the pie-chart in CMYK or LAB mode. The color conversions are performed through InDesign.

#25 By gary ( 30 June 2010 - 20:31 )

I would like to see a preview window for this script...but it is definitely a time-saver over Illustrator.

#26 By hakuna ( 13 July 2010 - 15:07 )

Une appli simple et efficace. Merci.
Cependant, j'ai un item qui est à zéro et qui n'apparait jamais. Ex de graphique, avec
- Tout à fait : 17
- Oui plutôt : 15
- Pas vraiment : 2
- Pas du tout : 0

Le dernier item est systématiquement manquant et je voudrais qu'il apparaisse. Est-ce que j'ai loupé qq chose ?
Merci.

#27 By Marc ( 13 July 2010 - 16:04 )

@ hakuna

En effet, dans sa version actuelle le script ignore tout bonnement les « parts » de valeur nulle. Elles ne sont évidemment pas représentables dans le camembert, mais vous avez raison de souligner qu'elles pourraient quand même figurer en légende. Je vais y réfléchir. Merci de votre feedback.

@+
Marc

#28 By Gribouille ( 17 August 2010 - 10:06 )

Parfait!
J'avais déjà beaucoup apprécié le script "Claquos 1", le 2 me ravit d'avance!
Merci Marc!

#29 By martin ( 01 September 2010 - 16:42 )

Un script merveilleux.
Mais pourqoi 8 items par pie chart seulement? Puisque c'est le beta version??

#30 By Marc ( 01 September 2010 - 23:52 )

@ Martin

> Mais pourqoi 8 items par pie chart seulement? (...)

Eh bien, il m'a semblé que c'était amplement suffisant pour tester la beta, non?

La version finale est encore en cours de développement. Pour tout dire, j'ai un petit souci technique avec la méthode d'éclatement des parts (option "explode"). Je ne pensais pas que ce script éprouverait à ce point mes compétences en trigonométrie ;-)

@+
Marc

#31 By Martin ( 16 September 2010 - 15:35 )

Cher Marc,
c'est tres domage, parce que je dois faire une 'tarte' avec 10 items! Sans avoir besoin de l'eclatemant....
Q'est-que vous me conseillez????

#32 By el machia ( 04 November 2010 - 10:23 )

Great script!! I need pie charts very often in InDesign. It's a real time saver! BUT, I need a chart with 12 items and Claquos 2 only allows me up to 8. Is there a work around? Keep up the good work...

#33 By Marc ( 06 November 2010 - 04:34 )

@ Martin

La version BETA étant limitée à 8 parts, je ne peux que vous inviter à patienter jusqu'à la mouture finale du script. C'est un développement « au long cours ».

@ el machia

Thanks for your comment. The BETA version is deliberately limited to 8 pies, and I'm still working on the final release. Sorry for the inconvenience.

#34 By Diana ( 09 November 2010 - 15:48 )

Sweet!!! Finally a script that works in CS5! Thank You!!!!

#35 By Mark ( 09 November 2010 - 21:05 )

great results. I would love to see bar and line charts as well.

#36 By Lori ( 17 November 2010 - 22:09 )

Hello, When is this Claquos script going to come out of Beta and go to final release? Will need script that can handle more than 8 pies. I looked for InDesign plugins to create pie charts in CS5 and came across your script which is very helpful! Have you any documentation on this for users. I know it is fairly intuitive but documentation is big for prepress team. Please advise if you can send me something or I can download. Adding in bar chart graphs would be great too. Thanks!!!

#37 By kellyao ( 03 February 2011 - 19:42 )

This is a great script! I also wanted to echo what others in the string have said...I'd love to see scripts for bar and line charts.

#38 By Steve ( 10 February 2011 - 22:31 )

Fantastic script. For me the only improvement would be the ability to choose colour swatches that are already defined in the Indesign document.

Bar charts would be very handy too though!

#39 By tzs007 ( 26 February 2011 - 14:27 )

hi!

it can be handle only 8 slots of data? i need more slots:/

o/
tzs007

#40 By Doguz ( 17 March 2011 - 05:33 )

Hello, CS4 on MAC. At random times the round edges do not work, they just go to straight edge. Any idea how this happens? I love the round edges but at the moment I can't rely on them.

#41 By Marc ( 17 March 2011 - 22:45 )

Hi Doguz,

Thanks for your feedback. Indeed there's something weird with rounded corners under some conditions... This issue gives me a headache! And this is the main reason why the final release is not yet ready.

Be assured that I'm working on it!

@+
Marc

#42 By bonkers ( 21 April 2011 - 15:41 )

Thank you. For my simple needs - this works like a charm!

#43 By Camel ( 13 May 2011 - 00:31 )

Simply brilliant! But we need more slots! :)

#44 By deiology ( 26 September 2011 - 18:07 )

Great script!! I hate importing from Excel so this is great. I haven't encountered any probs. Im able to edit fonts, ungroup layers, resize objects, change colors... would be nice if the chart size would change on the fly when figures imputed change. This might be unrealistic though as figures imputed might not add up to 100% for example... Anyway, good stuff. Hope to see something for line and bar graphs :)

#45 By anais ( 09 April 2012 - 22:09 )

Very nice and thank you so much! I had the same problem as mchak for the explosion, luckly I see your answer, I will try the implode button.

#46 By Yoshimura ( 19 April 2012 - 20:35 )

Hello,

When I try to launch the script from a custom panel made in Adobe Configurator, it says:

Error: No file is associated with the currently active script.

#47 By djeko ( 25 April 2012 - 20:15 )

Wow, merci beaucoup!!!

#48 By Moimoi ( 21 May 2012 - 19:53 )

Super comme script, mais tjrs 8 quartier :(....ca arrive quans la version final =)=)=)=)Merci encore c est super!!

#49 By Marc ( 22 May 2012 - 17:10 )

[EN] Thanks all for your nice feedback. I'm sorry that the final release takes a so long delay. Most of the 'todo' work regards UI, which I want to make more user-friendly.

[FR] Merci à tous pour vos commentaires enthousiastes. Je regrette que la version finale soit si lente à émerger. Le travail qui reste à faire concerne essentiellement l'interface utilisateur de Claquos, dont je souhaite améliorer l'ergonomie.

@+
Marc

#50 By Niko ( 12 July 2012 - 22:40 )

Sympa comme tout ce script que l'on vient de me faire découvrir. Enfin quelque chose pour recomposer rapidement ces "joyeux graphiques" qui nous sont remis sous forme d'Excel !
Par contre une première remarque sur l'interface, notamment dans la présentation des données à rentrer : il est plus que dommage de ne pas pouvoir utiliser rapidement un copier-coller de l'ensemble données d'un fichier Excel (ou Numbers, Openoffice etc…) dans une interface correspondante. Il faut tout se recogner à la main ou copier-coller chaque donnée… quelle perte de temps, sans compter les risques d'erreur.
Mais bravo pour le travail déjà effectué car sur ce registre m'sieu Adobe joue les absents.

#51 By Niko ( 12 July 2012 - 23:17 )

D'autres petites choses me viennent aussi à l'esprit pour que ce script devienne plus qu'essentiel :-)
• la possibilité de charger une palette de couleur ou d'avoir accès aisément et rapidement aux couleurs déjà définis dans le document Indesign
• la possibilité de pouvoir choisir un style de paragraphe ou de caractère pour la légende et un autre pour les données chiffrées
• et comme pour les différents thèmes couleur, la possibilité d'enregistrer et de faire appel à ses propres réglages basiques et avancés.

…… siouplait m'sieu !

#52 By 99drine ( 24 July 2012 - 14:20 )

Un vrai plaisir ce script ! Merci m'sieur Autret ! Ce serait juste génial de pouvoir dépasser les 8 parts autorisées… Si ça se trouve c'est pas si compliqué à bidouiller mais je suis plus que béotienne en matière de scripts… Quelqu'un saurait me dire ?
Merci !

#53 By Elissa ( 16 August 2012 - 07:05 )

This is great! So helpful! I'm wondering if the text you type in the label field is supposed to show up on the completed chart? Nothing I type in does. I want to label each piece of 54 pies with their percentages and it would be really nice not to have to do it entirely manually. I'm finishing this project in the next few days so would really appreciate a quick response from anyone who knows! Thanks

#54 By kindofblack ( 22 February 2013 - 11:39 )

Bonjour et merci,

Peut-on imaginer utiliser un jour Claquos en interface avec la fusion de données pour générer de beaux claquos "variables" dans un doc répétitif ?

Marc

#55 By Marc ( 25 February 2013 - 04:33 )

Merci à tous pour vos commentaires nombreux et encourageants. Sachez qu'ils sont lus et pris en compte.

La version finale de Claquos demande beaucoup plus de temps que prévu — accouchement difficile ! — mais elle viendra en son heure.

Beaucoup de suggestions pertinentes égrènent ce fil de commentaires : je vais tenter d'ajouter ces fonctionnalités dans la mesure du possible.

@+
Marc